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A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don't quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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David9694 replied to Hirsute | 1 month ago
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I always think Oxford and Cambridge are a bellwether on traffic and controlling it. 

This has been in the pipeline for a couple of years so I assume we've worked through a range of driver whinges to get this point.

yOUre taking my HUNAn rites away 

they want working Class people outof their cars by 2030

wAke uP sheeple 15 minute cities are reality now

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ktache replied to David9694 | 4 weeks ago
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Why would tyre extinguishers need their weights set to zero?

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chrisonabike replied to David9694 | 4 weeks ago
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As the wetter winters (and drier summers) of climate breakdown settle on to the starting blocks, and the gammon curtain of Brexit descends making the UK a second world country, [...]

If the UK is going to be a 2nd world country (which would be about right, absent our glorious past of global rapine and pillage) do we at least get an upgrade to 2nd-world- class cycle infra and local streets?

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chrisonabike replied to wtjs | 4 weeks ago
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Another day, another Sudden Unexplained Acceleration Incident about 2:30 this afternoon [...]

The pattern that David9494 (was it?) outlined is becoming clearer - like predators and con-artists these electric autonomous vehicles are biding their time then selectively picking on the unsuspecting old and infirm - having convinced them they are just there to help.

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hawkinspeter replied to ktache | 4 weeks ago
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.With thanks to the anti cyclist guardian, Joe Lycett and Foka Wolf.

Do I win a prize for recognising where that is from just half of the road sign?

It's just 5 minutes from my house in Bristol - Blackswarth Rd leading to Crews Hole Rd.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6c7gSndgy7tGVory9

Edit: rode past there and it's currently a British Airways advert

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Steve K replied to David9694 | 3 weeks ago
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David9694 wrote:

Drivers : cyclists should pay Road Tax etc

Also drivers : you want us to pay to use the toll bridge? L-O-L 

Fees hike at Eling toll bridge approved by Totton and Eling Town Council amid legal advice

Resident Mary Brown said exemption from the toll had been granted 40 years ago by NFDC on the grounds it was “reasonable and necessary” for residents to be able to access services and facilities in the town centre by the shortest available route.

“In that respect, nothing has changed. Parents taking kids to school, people making use of medical services, shops or the library all have to cross the bridge or make a lengthy detour.

“These services are free to other residents of Totton and to make part of the community pay is nothing short of discrimination.”

Resident Graham Gardiner added: “We have taken legal advice and are of the strong opinion that the issuance of free exemption passes is an established right and should continue in perpetuity.”

https://www.advertiserandtimes.co.uk/news/legal-delay-amid-fees-hike-at-...

Of no relevance whatsoever, but I cycle over the bridge pretty regularly - it's on my 100 mile ride from home in South London to our caravan in New Milton.  It's very pretty there.

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chrisonabike replied to Hirsute | 3 weeks ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Keep the old car

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Shurely "True British patriots have second homes in warmer countries and fly there wooly jumpers and English Roadsters"?

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David9694 replied to SaveTheWail | 1 month ago
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I imagine the damage to the family's multiple cars would be even worse on unfamiliar roads as opposed to the one they all use regularly. 

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stonojnr replied to David9694 | 1 month ago
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I cant believe they spent nearly 4 hrs debating creating a £1 per hour car park charge, it should have been a 5min conversation at most if it needed anything more than rubber stamping.

and it still sounds like theyre creating some horrendous system so parking to pick up prescriptions will still be free somehow !?!

why do people find it so hard to understand using a car should cost them money and not be subsidised?

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OnYerBike replied to Hirsute | 1 month ago
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Not sure this thread is the place for detailed legal discussion, but I think the term would be "involuntary bailment" if you want to google it for more info. The long and short of it is the person who has come into possession of the goods (the bailee) has certain obligations regarding the goods, including keeping them safe. Simply dumping them in the street would likely by at the very least a civil tort against their owner, and potentially a criminal offence too (if deemed to be fly tipping). 

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David9694 replied to hawkinspeter | 1 month ago
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"To date we have not found any Country that requires you to have either insurance or a licence to drive a Surf on water." Typical, eh? 

https://www.timdutton.com/4wd.html

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john_smith replied to ktache | 4 weeks ago
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To match their IQs?

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David9694 replied to chrisonabike | 4 weeks ago
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chrisonabike wrote:
wtjs wrote:

Another day, another Sudden Unexplained Acceleration Incident about 2:30 this afternoon [...]

The pattern that David9494 (was it?) outlined is becoming clearer - like predators and con-artists these electric autonomous vehicles are biding their time then selectively picking on the unsuspecting old and infirm - having convinced them they are just there to help.

You wish the car was autonomous, then it would be like "oh, feels like Pops here has mixed-up the gas and the brake AGAIN - I'll just wait here 'til he sorts himself out. (And not the sort that says "that toilet block looks just like the A6 - full speed ahead then")

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David9694 replied to hawkinspeter | 3 weeks ago
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You and a friend have won first prize, a day out at Diddly Squat Farm. 

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David9694 replied to Steve K | 3 weeks ago
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Then you'll know the distance from Eling village to the centre of Totton is less than a mile, but drivers will die on that hill. 

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David9694 replied to stonojnr | 1 month ago
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"The full-day charge for parking in Hadleigh and Sudbury will reduce from the current £3-a-day to £2.50 – supporting town centre workers, and encouraging visitors from further afield to spend the day exploring the high streets and local attractions.

Refund arrangements are proposed for users of the council’s leisure centres at Sudbury and Hadleigh so no one is deterred from staying fit and active, and also for customers to Roys in Sudbury.  

In addition, officers are looking at refunds for users of nearby medical centres and mobile screening facilities, and possible means-tested permit schemes being explored for parents using council car parks for the school drop off and pick up."

Is there so very much to see in Hadleigh and Sudbury? Utter nonsense about prescriptions etc. Impossible to draw a line - if anything, per Cllr Carter, they should keep the first 30 minutes free - but Google "induced demand" first. The best bit is driving to the leisure centre - "staying fit and active". 

https://www.babergh.gov.uk/w/-modest-parking-charge-proposals-agreed-wit...

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SaveTheWail replied to David9694 | 1 month ago
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David9694 wrote:

I imagine the damage to the family's multiple cars would be even worse on unfamiliar roads as opposed to the one they all use regularly. 

I can promise them it would be even worse in Derbyshire.

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hawkinspeter replied to OnYerBike | 1 month ago
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OnYerBike wrote:

Not sure this thread is the place for detailed legal discussion, but I think the term would be "involuntary bailment" if you want to google it for more info. The long and short of it is the person who has come into possession of the goods (the bailee) has certain obligations regarding the goods, including keeping them safe. Simply dumping them in the street would likely by at the very least a civil tort against their owner, and potentially a criminal offence too (if deemed to be fly tipping). 

However, TIER bikes are left in the streets as part of their usual operation, so it could be argued that they are as safe in the street outside of his property as they would be anywhere else. Better to leave them where they were left by TIER though as it could be argued that moving them caused some damage.

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Steve K replied to David9694 | 3 weeks ago
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Then you'll know the distance from Eling village to the centre of Totton is less than a mile, but drivers will die on that hill. 

And, more seriously, where's the coverage of the closure of the cycle lane which forces you to cycle on the Totton bypass.

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stonojnr replied to David9694 | 1 month ago
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Sudbury has more going for it than Hadleigh but the local Sudbury councillors demanded a vote of no confidence as a result of the "shameful" decision.

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24244100.sudbury-councillors-brand-parking-c...

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David9694 replied to Steve K | 3 weeks ago
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Ooo, yikes!

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brooksby replied to stonojnr | 1 month ago
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stonojnr wrote:

Sudbury has more going for it than Hadleigh but the local Sudbury councillors demanded a vote of no confidence as a result of the "shameful" decision. https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24244100.sudbury-councillors-brand-parking-c...

It's funny how on the one hand it's all a war on the hard-working motorist while the bl00dy cyclists unfairly receive all that taxpayers' money (really?) and yet on the other hand the motorists still insist on free or insanely cheap parking for their vehicles… 

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David9694 replied to stonojnr | 1 month ago
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stonojnr wrote:

Sudbury has more going for it than Hadleigh but the local Sudbury councillors demanded a vote of no confidence as a result of the "shameful" decision. https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24244100.sudbury-councillors-brand-parking-c...

Ah yes, spoken from the delicious position of The Sidelines and not having to put your hand in your own pocket to continue to subsidise drivers. 

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stonojnr replied to David9694 | 1 month ago
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Its the story that just keeps giving, the councillor who has submitted the request to call in the decision and wants 1 hr free car parking is from the Green party!!!

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24247158.sudbury-hadleigh-lavenham-parking-c...

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David9694 replied to stonojnr | 1 month ago
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stonojnr wrote:

Its the story that just keeps giving, the councillor who has submitted the request to call in the decision and wants 1 hr free car parking is from the Green party!!! https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24247158.sudbury-hadleigh-lavenham-parking-c...

I like that financial grounds are "narrow". 

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Hirsute replied to OnYerBike | 1 month ago
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Not heard of that expression but have read some of the detail before in a different context. Does seem to relate to another person rather than a company and I thought the same as HP that the normal operation of Tier is to leave the bikes on public property, so I don't think there would be a duty of care beyond making sure there was no obstruction of the highway.

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David9694 replied to David9694 | 3 weeks ago
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David9694 wrote:

You and a friend have won first prize, a day out at Diddly Squat Farm. 

And then you say, "what's the second prize?"

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Hirsute replied to Hirsute | 1 month ago
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Actually as the article says people have arrived to hire the scooter, he should hire them for 1 minute and leave them in public space!

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 1 month ago
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Don't TIER scooters have a geofenced area where you must leave them?  In which case, they might have ended up fining him for leaving them outside the area marked for leaving them.

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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 1 month ago
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