Squire’s Bluetooth-controlled inigma Diamond BL1 D-lock comes with top Sold Secure rating

vthejk wrote:

A mate bought a number of bluetooth-enabled lights that could change colour. She used them for her University Fine Art final project, and paid a reasonable sum of her part-time wages towards it. Two months later, the company changed ownership and the new owners' app was deliberately made incompatible with any older lights that were made pre-takeover.

....Which is just one reason why I think anything powered by a niche, starter phone app is a bad, bad idea.

That's why it's important for IOT devices to use an open standard to communicate so if a company disappears, you can at least put something together (or pay someone to do it) to still control your devices. Just say NO to proprietary rubbish

ktache wrote:

realise that nothing will stand up to angle grinders but I would want to make them spend a little time on it.  

Well, the new Hiplok D1000 claims to.

Would have been nice to see the disc materials used. I'm pretty sure when properly independent testers have done "the impossible" and cut through unbreakable locks with tools shown as useless by the manufacturers, it is because the manufacturers have used tools designed to cut the wrong material. 

I also like how they then show the lock being used on basic sheffield stands just on the frame and not through the wheels. I wonder what the thief will cut?

ktache wrote:

What's the thickness of the d part?

From the Kickstarter page:

Quote:

Featuring a hardened steel body and 12.7mm hardened boron steel shackle, the inigma™ Diamond BL1 can withstand extreme attacks of over 5 minutes using a range of heavy duty tools making it the ideal security solution for all high value bicycles and e-bikes locked in high-risk areas.

A Diamond rated lock ought to resist the largest of bolt croppers.

So the attack vector would be find a way to brick the electronics so the owner can't unlock it, then come back at a quiet time when you have more than 5 minutes to work on it.

mdavidford wrote:

So the attack vector would be find a way to brick the electronics so the owner can't unlock it, then come back at a quiet time when you have more than 5 minutes to work on it.

Just park up next to it with some kind of hot food stall and keep using the microwave - that should disrupt the Bluetooth

Don't see cordless disc cutters in any of the lists. I suspect they don't have them as the diamond would be down to bronze levels of times.

Thanks for finding that, 12.7mm doesn't seem too thick.

Pragmisis say that their 16mm chain is pretty much bolt cutter proof.

tbf I always have my phone out on the bike with me.  There are occasions I could do without yet another key.

I'd like to know what vunerability checking has been done with it. 

My phone is always in my pannier or bag, whereas my keys are in my pocket.  So I'd have to stop, get the lock out, then rummage to find my phone then open their app...  Nah - I'll stick to a key, thanks.

So maybe it needs to be a Garmin app? A bit like switching on/off lights (doesn't fill me with confidence).

Yes, maybe I'm behind the times. I could see the convenience of having my phone as the key for everything - car, house, bike, etc. Just one thing to carry and not forget. I'd want to know who gets the usage data, and what they do with it - bike was locked up outside establishment X for 37 minutes on Friday, etc.

Sriracha wrote:

Yes, maybe I'm behind the times. I could see the convenience of having my phone as the key for everything - car, house, bike, etc. Just one thing to carry and not forget.

At 53, it'd only be a matter of time before I forgot it! I rather prefer the safety first approach of having things separate, if I lose my keys, I still have cards and phone, forget my phone, still have keys and cards etc. Putting everything into one easily-loseable package feels like asking for trouble to me. I even keep my house keys and lock keys separate so if I lose the house keys I can still cycle round to one of the mates who has spares, if I lose the lock key I can still get back into the house to get the spare.

I hate carrying loads of keys too, would love a bike lock to come out that took a standard euro cyclinder.

Your house key and your bike lock key in one then.

You just need a hasp & staple on your front door, then you're good to go with one key
https://mobil.abus.com/uk/on-road/Highlights/YourPlus

I'm really keen to get some of those keyed-alike bike locks (for ebike especially, which has battery lock, nurse's lock and extra U-lock, all with different keys), but I haven't found a bike shop that actually participates in the programme. The ones I asked all get their Abus gear from a UK distributor and don't have any relationship with Abus HQ in Germany. Do you know anyone who is selling them?

You could try these guys (I just googled it, never heard of the shop):
https://www.reallyusefulbikes.co.uk/security/abus

Thank you very much. I did email them a couple of months ago but never had a response. Will give it another try!

I do like the rustic look.

Top suggestion.

joe9090 wrote:

Soon to be bypassed with a Haribo sweet on the YT channel of the Locking Picking Lawyer!

I'd like to see how his mini EMP generator does.

"And this one was chewed by me and Bosnian Bill"